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2025 Agenda

day2

Day 02 
Thursday, November 13, 2025

7:00 AM -6:00 PM

Parlor Foyer

Registration Desk Open

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7:30 AM - 7:50 AM

Ladybird Lawn

Morning Meditation

Speaker 

Kathy Zhu

Co-founder, CEO, & General Counsel

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8:00 AM - 6:00 PM

Travis

Podcast Room

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8:00 AM - 9:00 AM

Hill County Pavilion & Lawn

Breakfast

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9:05 AM - 9:45 AM

Brazos A

Who Controls the Future of Legal Services?

As law shifts toward services, systems, and software, ownership of the “stack” is becoming a central question. Accounting firms are drawing private equity, while management services organizations (MSOs) replicate legal systems at scale. With AI now automating dispute resolution, ABS platforms and MSOs may outpace traditional firms. This session will examine whether human judgment still sets firms apart, how Big Tech is becoming the entry point for legal services, and whether traditional firms can remain relevant.


Moderator

Crispin Passmore

Founder & Chair, Passmore & Oliver Partners 


Panelists

Lucian Pera

Partner at Adams and Reese 


Tom Greenaway

Designated Principal at KPMG Law US 


Trish Rich

Partner & Chair of the Legal Profession Team at Holland & Knight

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9:05 AM - 9:45 AM

Houston

AI Is My Co-Counsel

In-house legal teams are being asked to scale their impact with fewer resources—and many are turning to generative AI and automation to meet the challenge. But what’s actually working in the field, and where is the risk outweighing the reward? In this session, legal leaders and technologists share use cases that have delivered measurable ROI while also examining blind spots like data leakage, hallucination, and lack of explainability.


Moderator

Marlene Gebauer

Practice Support Attorney at K&L Gates 


Panelists

Brett Shawn

Managing Director & Assistant General Counsel at Warburg Pincus


Bob Haskin

Director, Solutions Enablement & Business Intelligence, Global Affairs at Google


Lydia Petrakis

Assistant General Counsel & Digital Strategist at Microsoft 

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9:10 AM - 9:45 AM

Ballroom B&C

Startup Showcase

LexSelect 

Newcode 

Syntracts 

SurePath AI

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9:55 AM - 10:35 AM

Brazos A

The Future of ABS and Regulatory Reform

Arizona’s ABS program has attracted major law firm models and investment, but its future is uncertain. States like Maryland, Texas, and California are moving to restrict ABS through ethics rules, legislation, and court action. Large players have the resources to respond, but smaller entrants face greater risk. This session will examine where challenges are emerging, why courts often matter more than legislatures, and what companies can do to safeguard their models. We will also discuss Utah’s regulatory sandbox, its limits for scaling, and what longer-term regulatory options could look like, particularly as generative AI regulation gains traction.


Moderator

Anu Sethee

VP, Legal Practice Leader at LegalZoom 


Panelists

Natalie Knowlton

Associate Director of Legal Innovation at Stanford University 


Lee Minkoff

Managing Director at Renouvus Capital 


Taylor Bell

Founder of Arizona ABS Law

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10:30 AM - 12:00 PM

Barton Creek A&B

Networking for Good

As we are together during the week of Vetean's day, be part of a hands-on team assembling LN4 prosthetic hands that will be given, free of charge, to people around the world who otherwise wouldn’t have access to them. Work side by sid, getting to know others in the legal ecosystem, and hear stories from one of the program’s founders about the impact these hands have made in more than 100 countries.


Speaker 

Lain Hensley 

Head Dream Chaser & Co-Founder of Odyssey Teams

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10:40 AM - 11:50 AM

Ballroom B&C

Growth Track

Bridge Legal 

Steno 

Smokeball 

Harvey 

Centerbase

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10:45 AM - 11:25 AM

Brazos A

Shadow Compliance

Behind every official workflow is a shadow system whether Google Docs for approvals, Slack for reporting, or AI chatbots for quick answers. These informal tools reveal how employees really solve legal and compliance problems when official systems fall short. This session will explore the creativity and risks of shadow compliance and how in-house teams can turn those insights into more intuitive, resilient, and employee-friendly solutions.


Moderator

Hemma Lomax 

Deputy General Counsel, Vice President, Global Head of Ethics & Compliance at Docusign


Panelists

Sagan Weiss 

Chief Compliance Officer at J. Goldman & Co.


Andrew McBride 

Founder & Chief Executive Officer of Integrity Bridge


Nick Gallo 

Co-CEO & Chief Servant of Ethico

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10:45 AM - 11:25 AM

Houston

Law Schools & Lawyer Identity

Legal education is changing, reshaping what it means to be a lawyer. We’ll discuss the skills students are (and aren’t) learning, how legaltech is entering classrooms, and what that means for adoption, training, and long-term change. Are schools preparing graduates for a world where AI is central? What does it mean to build a career when tech fluency matters as much as legal analysis? Panelists from academia will share how they’re working together, and why the overlap of education, technology, and identity is driving the future of law.


Moderator

Wendy Butler Curtis

CIO at Orrick


Panelists

Bobby Chesney

Dean & James A. Baker III Chair at University of Texas School of Law


Aric Short

Professor & Director, Professional Identity & Leadership Development at Texas A&M University School of Law


Cat Moon

Professor of the Practice, Founding Co-Director VAILL at Vanderbilt Law School


Kenton Brice

Director of the Law Library at University of Oklahoma College of Law


April Dawson

Associate Dean of Technology & Innovation, Professor of Law at North Carolina Central University

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11:00 AM - 12:30 PM

Rio Grande

Approach The Bench

In these pre-scheduled one-on-one meetings, startups will meet with a sitting judge to discuss how their innovations could be applied in the justice system.


Speaker

Honorable Scott Schlegel

Judge at Louisiana Fifth Circuit Court of Appeal

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11:30 AM - 12:00 PM

Brazos C

Hot Topic: The Future of Nonlawyer Ownership

Address growing opposition to nonlawyer ownership of law firms--through Arizona’s ABS program and emerging models elsewhere--focusing on the growing presence of VC and PE investment and the controversy surrounding that. Explore strategies to highlight the benefits of nonlawyer ownership, the safeguards that protect lawyer independence, and how these structures in partnership with VC/PE can expand access to justice.


Speaker

Natalie Knowlton

Associate Director of Legal Innovation at Stanford University

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11:30 AM - 12:00 PM

Llano

Hot Topic: Rethinking Cost Structures

Join a discussion on how firms are rethinking their approach to purchasing and partnering with technology companies.


Speaker

Christina Wojcik

Chief Innovation Officer at Pierson Ferdinand

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11:30 AM - 12:00 PM

Brazos G

Hot Topic: The Lawyer of the Future

Challenge traditional ideas of what it means to be a lawyer, featuring thought leaders Aric Short and April Dawson on how the profession is evolving and what the future role of lawyers may look like.


Speaker

Wendy Curtis

Chief Innovation Officer at Orrick

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11:55 AM - 12:25 PM

Ballroom B&C

Startup Showcase

Ruli AI

Warrant

Naya Software

Covenant

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12:05 PM - 12:35 PM

Brazos C

Hot Topic: A Tech-tonic Shift to Legal & Compliance as a Service

Explore how technology can help in-house teams deliver legal and compliance as a service, improving the employee experience and making support more seamless across the organization.


Speaker

Hemma Lomax

Deputy General Counsel, Vice President, Global Head of Ethics & Compliance at Docusign

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12:05 PM - 12:35 PM

Llamo

Hot Topic: Scaling or Stalling

Explore the choices that determine whether a tool grows or fades. The conversation will focus on product priorities, sales cycles, market timing, and buyer trust, with real-world insights into what drives success in today’s competitive environment.


Speaker

Marlene Gebauer

Practice Support Attorney at K&L Gates

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12:05 PM - 12:35 PM

Brazos G

Hot Topic: True Innovation or Innovation Theater?

Are law firms truly innovating, or just layering shiny GenAI tools on top of outdated systems? What does true innovation look like today, and in the future, as models and tech capabilities improve exponentially? Can the law firm innovation team of today keep up, while also avoiding the dreaded “innovation theater.”


Speaker

Sara Miro

Director of Knowledge & Innovation at Sullivan & Cromwell

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12:30 PM - 1:15 PM

Hill Country Pavilion & Lawn

Lunch

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1:00 PM - 1:30 PM

Brazos G

Hot Topic: Career Journeys in Legal Tech and Innovation

“Well, how did I get here?” No boring talking heads here as we tackle this question famously posed by The Talking Heads. Join legal tech professionals from all over the ecosystem – tech companies, corporate legal teams, law firms – to talk about career journeys, past, present and future. Share how you found your way into the wonderful world of legal tech and innovation – and dare to predict what future roles will or should look like.


Speaker

Farrah Pepper

Chief Legal Innovation Counsel at Marsh McLennan

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1:00 PM - 1:30 PM

Rio Grande

Hot Topic: How Legal Professionals Really Use Tech

Focus on the user experience of legal technology, exploring how attorneys, legal ops, and staff engage with tools in their daily workflows. Discussion will highlight common pain points, challenges with adoption, and the difference between innovation led without user input and what becomes possible when end users help shape the tools they rely on.


Speaker

Daryl Shetterly

Managing Director of Orrick Analytics

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1:00 PM - 1:30 PM

Brazos C

Hot Topic: The Macro Forces Reshaping Technology

Explore how geopolitical tensions, evolving AI regulation, and shifting political and economic conditions are influencing the strategies of tech companies, corporate leaders, and legal teams. We'll discuss how these forces shape product innovation, procurement, risk tolerance, and go-to-market timing in a rapidly changing environment.


Speaker

Sean West

Co-Founder of The Unruly Corporation

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1:20 PM - 2:30 PM

Ballroom B&C

Scale Stage

Hona 

Flo Recruit 

Vertican 

Foundation AI 

Lawline

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1:25 PM - 1:55 PM

Llamo

Hot Topic: AI and the Justice Gap

Examine how AI tools are being used in the public benefit space and whether they can meaningfully expand access to justice or risk deepening existing inequities.


Speaker

LeeAnn Black

COO at Latham & Watkins

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1:35 PM - 2:05 PM

Rio Grande

Hot Topic: WWPED? Maximizing Shareholder Value at Law Firms

PE funds invest in businesses with the goal of scaling their operations, improving performance, and driving growth in enterprise value. This session will focus on how a PE fund might apply its typical playbook to unlock a law firm's value. We will discuss What Would Private Equity Do to improve margins, price work with more accuracy, increase revenue, develop new products, drive inorganic growth, leverage technology, and more.


Speaker

Brad Blickstein

CEO of Blickstein Group

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1:45 PM - 2:25 PM

Brazos A

Smart Money: Legaltech Investors Talk Shop

Hear the most active investors in legal technology share where they see the biggest opportunities ahead. From emerging AI applications to new business models reshaping service delivery, these investors will discuss the trends driving their decisions, how they evaluate companies in a fast-changing market, and what signals they watch to spot the next breakout. Attendees will gain a candid view of the current investment climate for legaltech, what is attracting capital right now, and how shifts in the legal industry and broader economy could create new winners in the years ahead.


Moderator

Kristy Obuchowski Wallen

Managing Director at Baird


Panelists

Gordon Crenshaw

Partner at The LegalTech Fund


Joe Dormani

Partner at Thomson Reuters Ventures


Jacob Pincus

Vice President at Aquiline

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1:45 PM - 2:25 PM

Houston

From In-House to Founder

Many of today’s most innovative legal tech startups were launched by attorneys who left in-house roles frustrated by the tools they didn’t have. Seeing gaps firsthand, they decided to build the solutions themselves. This panel will feature founders who made that leap, sharing how their in-house experience shaped their products, what pushed them to take the risk, and how their perspective as “in-house refugees” gives them a unique edge in solving problems for legal teams.


Moderator

Farrah Pepper

Chief Legal Innovation Counsel at Marsh McLennan


Panelists

Kathy Zhu

Co-founder, CEO & General Counsel of Streamline AI


Jackie Schafer

Founder & CEO of Clearbrief


Cecilia Ziniti

Co-founder & CEO of GC AI

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1:45 PM - 3:15 PM

Barton Creek A&B

Networking for Good

As we are together during the week of Vetean's day, be part of a hands-on team assembling LN4 prosthetic hands that will be given, free of charge, to people around the world who otherwise wouldn’t have access to them. Work side by sid, getting to know others in the legal ecosystem, and hear stories from one of the program’s founders about the impact these hands have made in more than 100 countries.


Speaker

Lain Hensley

Head Dream Chaser & Co-Founder of Odyssey Teams

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2:40 PM - 3:20 PM

Brazos A

Unlocking Collaboration: Interoperability in Legal AI

As AI tools grow more common in legal, interoperability is becoming a key factor in making them work together effectively. This panel will explore how better integration between Legal AI systems can reduce silos, improve workflows, and unlock real innovation. Panelists will discuss current roadblocks like incompatible systems and data formats, highlight promising solutions, and share the benefits of improved data access, smarter decisions, and lower costs. We'll also look at future trends and why collaboration across developers, legal teams, and tech vendors is crucial for building more connected legal ecosystems.


Moderator

Wendy Chow

General Counsel at Cityblock Health


Panelists

Ilona Logvinova

Chief AI Officer at HSF Kramer


Nicola Shaver

Co-Founder & CEO of Legaltech Hub


Matt Sunderman

CEO of Harbor


Mike Haven

Global Head of Legal Operations at Meta

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2:40 PM - 3:20 PM

Houston

The Next Chapter

Meet the companies who are each defining a new chapter in legal technology by turning AI into more than just a tool. Hear them unpack how they are turning AI into a partner, not a gimmick, and what it means when law meets tech in real-time, for real-world clients.


Moderator

Ken Crutchfield

Founder & CEO of Spring Forward Consulting


Panelists

Jen Berrent

CEO of Covenant


Yannic Kilcher

Co-Founder & CTO of DeepJudge


Kiran Bellubbi

Co-Founder & CEO of Glade AI

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2:40 PM - 3:20 PM

Rayburn

All-in-One or Best-in-Class?

Two competing models are taking shape in legaltech: specialized point solutions that solve specific problems, and comprehensive platforms that aim to be all-in-one destinations. This creates real strategic challenges for law firms making procurement decisions and for founders choosing product directions, without a clear sense of which approach will win out. As the industry debates whether the future lies in focused tools, integrated ecosystems, or something entirely different, both buyers and builders are being forced to make bets. This panel explores how legal professionals and entrepreneurs can navigate product strategy and investment decisions in a market where the path forward is still uncertain.


Moderator

Christina Wojcik

Chief Innovation Officer at Pierson Ferdinand


Panelists

Ed Walters

Chief Strategy Officer at vLex


Katy Ryan

Partner at Orrick


Leslie Witt

Chief Product Officer at 8am


Michael Shea

Chief Information Officer at McDermott Will & Schulte

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2:40 PM - 3:30 PM

Ballroom B&C

Startup Showcase

CaseBlink

Paximal

Querious

Antidote

Patlytics

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3:30 PM - 4:00 PM

Hill County Pavilion & Lawn

"Take a Peek At Pathways" Networking

Take your seat at the table assigned on your badge. Each group is set up to introduce you to new people, spark conversation, and explore the future of law together. You’ll have the chance to network, share perspectives, and engage with discussion prompts about the changes shaping the industry. This is not just an event; you are a key participant in defining what comes next.

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4:05 PM - 4:35 PM

Brazos C

Hot Topic: Tomorrow’s Lawyer in an AI-Driven Profession

Explore how AI is reshaping the role of the lawyer and how firms, companies, and law schools are preparing talent for this shift. The discussion will cover how training programs are structured, whether access to AI tools requires prior training, how skills requirements are evolving, and what it means to responsibly develop the next generation of legal professionals.


Moderators

Stephanie Goutos

Head of Employment Law Practice Innovation at Gunderson Dettmer


Shanin Lott

Consultant & Global Law Firm Practice Leader at Russell Reynolds Associates

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4:05 PM - 4:35 PM

Rio Grande

Hot Topic: The Great Convergence

As legaltech merges with wealth, finance, tax, estate planning, and insurance, firms face both disruption and opportunity. Discover how this convergence is driving growth, expanding access, and creating the integrated client experience of the future.


Speaker

Cody Barbo

Founder & CEO of Trust & Will

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4:05 PM - 4:35 PM

Brazos G

Hot Topic: The Architecture of Legaltech

Explore the critical relationship between founders, investors, and innovation leaders, and how each group shapes the success of legal technology. From product development and funding to adoption and M&A, we’ll look at the dynamics driving this evolving ecosystem and what the road ahead means for the industry as a whole.


Speaker

Ilona Logvinova

Chief AI Officer at HSF Kramer

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4:05 PM - 4:35 PM

Llamo

Hot Topic: Beyond Strike-and-Replace

Let's collectively move past stone-age "strike section 3, replace with..." workflows and explore how AI can make agreement modifications actually operational.


Speaker

Wendy Chow

General Counsel at Cityblock Health

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4:05 PM - 5:15 PM

Ballroom B&C

Scale Stage

SimpleClosure 

Orbital 

Jusfy 

FirmPilot

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4:40 PM - 5:20 PM

Brazos A

Compliance at the Speed of AI

As organizations embrace AI, compliance teams are under pressure to manage risk while enabling innovation. New tools are emerging that automate legal workflows, govern how generative AI is used, and monitor communications across channels to meet regulatory requirements. This session will explore how these technologies are making compliance more proactive, data-driven, and aligned with the way employees actually work.


Moderator

Annie Miyazaki

Founder & President of Miya Solutions


Panelists

Tom Dreyfus

Co-founder & CEO of Josef


Casey Bleeker

CEO of Surepath AI


Dean Elwood  

CEO of Umony


Tela Mathias

CEO of Phoenix Outcomes

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4:40 PM - 5:20 PM

Houston

Big Bets: Inside Legaltech’s Recent Rounds

What do the latest LegalTech rounds mean for the future of lawyers? The biggest legaltech funding rounds of 2025 aren’t just about capital, they’re signals for where the legal profession is headed. In this candid conversation, founders behind some of the year’s most well-funded startups will reveal what investor confidence says about the pain points getting serious attention, how they’re building in a crowded market, and what that means for in-house teams striving for efficiency, law firms fighting to differentiate, and founders navigating the next wave of innovation. Whether you're building a company, running a legal organization, or partnering with legaltech providers, this session offers a front-row seat to the forces that will redefine the future of the industry.


Moderator

Mallun Yen

Founder & CEO of Operator Collective


Panelists

Ryan Alshak

CEO of Laurel


Victor Bornstein

Co-Founder & CEO of Justpoint


Shubham Datta

Vice President, Corporate Development & Ventures of Clio


Omar Haroun

Co-Founder & CEO of Eudia

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5:30 PM - 6:30 PM

Buses Running to County Line BBQ

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6:00 PM - 11:00 PM

County Line BBQ

Drinks, Dinner, Music, & Fun!

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day3

Day 03 
Friday, November 14, 2025

7:00 AM - 10:00 AM

Parlor Foyer

Registration Desk Open

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8:00 AM - 1:00 PM

Travis

Podcast Room

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8:00 AM - 9:00 AM

Hill Country Pavilion & Lawn

Breakfast

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8:00 AM - 8:45 AM

Barton Creek A&B

Breakfast & Inside Pathways for All

Join us for breakfast, open to everyone, to learn about Pathways: The Future of Law. Gain an understanding of the Three Horizon Framework and hear about the big conversations that have been taking place throughout the TLTF Summit that will create a 15-year roadmap for the future of law.


Speaker

Melanie Jamieson

Co-CEO of Leaders' Quest


Darya Shaikh

Partner at Leaders' Quest

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9:00 AM - 11:00 AM

Brazos ABC

Learning Lab

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9:10 AM - 9:40 AM

Rayburn

Integration Essentials

The next phase of legal technology isn’t about building more tools, it’s about connecting them. This session explores how collaboration, integration, and open platforms are redefining innovation in Legaltech, creating an ecosystem where shared value drives lasting growth.


Speaker

Matt Lautz

CEO & Owner of Neostella

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9:50 AM - 10:20 AM

Rayburn

Lead Generation Essentials

Discover the tactics that legal tech startups are using to generate lawyer leads and how trends differ across firm sizes - from AmLaw giants to solo practitioners - and practice areas - from corporate law to personal injury.


Speaker

Dean Shapero

CEO of Flytech

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10:00 AM - 10:40 AM

Brazos EF

The Cybernetic Society

We are entering an age where Artificial Intelligence is not just a tool but a structural force reshaping nations, economies, and human society itself. In this fireside conversation, Amir Husain, entrepreneur, technologist, and author of The Cybernetic Society, joins Bobby Chesney, Dean of the UT Austin School of Law, to explore the profound implications of AI for global stability, commerce, and governance.


Using the themes of Husain’s book as a guide, the discussion will span the disruptive potential of AI in geopolitics, the reordering of industries and trade, and the ethical and legal challenges that arise when machines become agents in the human world. Together, they will illuminate how the rise of AI is creating a new kind of society — cybernetic in nature — where technology, law, and human ambition intersect to define the future.


Moderator

Bobby Chesney

Dean & James A. Baker III Chair at University of Texas School of Law

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10:30 AM - 11:00 AM

Rayburn

QSBS Essentials

The Qualified Small Business Stock (QSBS) rules shifted — find out what’s new, what’s at risk, and how to stay ahead in the evolving landscape.



Speakers

Jonathan Fish

CEO of CapGains   


Carolyn Linkov

Managing Member of CapGains Law


Matthew Klatsky

Partner and Managing Member of HELIX Private Wealth

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11:00 AM - 12:30 PM

Hill Country Pavilion

Lunch

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